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Hi!

So I went to pick up some more makeup and received a sample of Skinceuticals B5 gel, which surprised me by actually appearing to work as advertised. In fact, I rather liked it, but not the $80 per oz. price tag. I looked around a found a knock-off product for $30. 

Riiii-diculous. The Skinceuticals ingredient list is Water, Sodium Hyaluronate, Pantothenic Acid, Phenoxyethanol.

Obviously, I can get the HA & B5 here for about $13 and drop them in 4 oz. of aloe vera juice, easy peasy, for a cost of oh, $4 an oz. Which I may do next month.

The question I have is: what preservative would I need, if any? If I refrigerate it, do I need a preservative? Is there a better base for gel product than aloe vera juice?

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Sea kelp Biopferment mixed in slightly warm water would give you an amazing base!

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Ty NYC - wouldn't the HA cause the sea kelp to thicken up too much??? No?
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I use Germaben II (sold at Skin Actives for a dollar) in my serum-type preparations.

What I do when using HA is to mix some with a little distilled water, allow it to sit and thicken, then add aloe juice or sea kelp. If it's too thick then I can adjust the thickness with a few drops of water. Then I add my actives, mix well, and add the preservative last. I also usually keep my SA products in the fridge to keep them active longer, but I have traveled with home-made serums preserved with Germaben and they seem to hold up fine (no changes in smell, color, or texture. The exception is anything with green tea EGCG, which naturally darkens over time).


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Thanks Sarah! sorry I didn't see this earlier, I think the forum has stopped sending emails.

Germaben - great - how much do you use per oz? The webpage here doesn't say! 

I'll definitely place my order once I have the amount figured out!
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0.5% to 1%.
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Great Hannah - looks like my order's on its way already. Even if I put it in a crystal bottle, it still can't cost me but 10% per oz. of what Skinceuticals wants.  
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How about a gold container? Or platinum?
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LOL Hannah. I suppose I could use a Tiffany perfume bottle. But that's waaay overkill. I tell you I remain astonished at what these companies get away with. Skinceuticals is actually owned by L'Oreal now, isn't it? The packaging is a plain glass dropper bottle for a "prescription medical" feel - like Perricone. The prices they dare charge for a glass bottle and $4 of ingredients. . .it's robbery, actually.
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They have to support lots of marketing people, plus sales people and executives.

Re. pricing, it is a choice that we made. We still get emails from potential clients asking us how our products can be good when they are so inexpensive.

Incidentally, you can also look at Correia Studios perfume bottles. They are so beautiful!

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