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LOL Hannah. That would be quite a signature line, actives in hand-blown art glass bottles!  I guess if Estee Lauder can charge $500 for a night cream with tiny ruby chips in it, why not? 

Having read all about the annoyances of working with HA the first time, I was prepared. In the end, I just bought a $3 2 oz. plain amber glass dropper bottle from Whole Foods. I boiled it for 3 minutes, let it cool and air-dry, then plopped in the HA, added my 2 T distilled water, watched it clump, shook it as best I could, mixed a bit with the spoon, added the B5 and 1 drop Germaben, then shook it some more. 

Of course it was all gluey and clumpy - so I just set it in the fridge overnight until it had all dissolved and gelled thick. This morning it looked exactly like the brand name product above - so I slathered it on. It felt so cool and delicious. I waited just a minute and then spread on some coffee anti-oxidant cream. 

My tinted moisturizer smoothed on like a dream - so even, gliding over my pores, and stayed on all day. Really love this DIY active combo! It performs just as well as the name brand - if not better because I bet I have more B5 in it - and took just 15 minutes total to make (not counting overnight chilling and gelling time). 

I'm laughing all the way to the bank on this one. A great starter project for my first-time DIY. Thanks for all the help and support! 

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It will be interesting to see how long it lasts. As soon as the bacteria start working on the hyaluronic acid, the gel will become a solution, so pay attention!
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Ah, Hannah, do I need to add more Germaben? I'll happily add more drops if necessary! I am also keeping it in the fridge.
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I did not say that. Germaben is used at 0.5 to 1%, and with drops I don't know.

I just gave you a hint on how to know when hyaluronic is gone.

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Oh, ok, Hannah. Here's the freaky thing - today some of the HA seemed to precipitate back out. Do I just need to shake it every other day to keep it mixed? I have to say I am still loving the actives. Easy, fun, and very nice results on my face - these small mixing issues aside.
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If a chemical is dissolved there is no reason why it should re-precipitate, unless temperature drops (solubility drops with temperature).

You can always add a few drops of water to make sure that you are under the solubility limit.

There could also be chemical reactions between two or more components of the solution.
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Hi Hannah,

Here's my update! So I asked my guy what was up with the fridge temperature. So he confessed he lowered it a bit! Reason 1 it may have precipitated. 

I found that altho' I let the simple mix sit for 24 hours to thicken up, it continued to thicken for about 72 hours. By the third day, the HA had ceased to fill 2/3s the bottle and "shrunk" about 1/3. The texture of the gel was almost like agar! Very hard.

So I simply added 2 T more distilled water and another drop of Germaben. Voila! After about 8 hours it re-dissolved.

I first put on LMC, then a bit of the B5 gel, then DMAE and finally Coffee cream. I let that sit for a couple of minutes and top with sunscreen. Works great!

Sometimes however foundations/makeup with a lot of silicone pills up a bit over the gel. So watch out for that.


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Hi Hannah!

As promised, my update on this self-made B2 gel. I made 4 oz of this in Oct. 11, and I have used 3 drops of it every day since. Today I'm nearly out - maybe only a few days left. I did keep it in the fridge all the time. 

Therefore using your products, I spent approx. $4.50 a month in contrast to the $400 I would have spent using the Skinceuticals product! (Because 1 of their $80 bottles lasts only 1 month!) And I can certainly guarantee I got more actives in my own mix. And it did stay fresh and potent the whole time.

As winter's now over, I don't know if I'll make another batch until next fall. But for those who are considering making their own B2 gel, I highly, highly, highly recommend it.  Ty for the great products, Hannah & Jonatan.
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Hi all, I ordered Zinc PCA and B5. Per instructions, I made a 4 oz solution by adding both to a glass squirt bottle of distilled water that I leave in the fridge and spritz on each morning after cleansing. My skin itches for a while after applying it. Is this normal, or should I dilute it a bit more--or any other suggestions?  Oh, I have acne-prone, very, very oily skin. Many thanks [smile]
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Thanks for writing.

I think that "itching" is one of the most complicated phenomena in skin. Complicated, important, significant but so complex that I can't make sense out of what I read, which is a lot. I think it is best not to worry about it unless it becomes chronic, and then it is time to worry about it a lot (after you take some anti-allergic OTC medicine and use SAS anti-inflammatory cream).

Some people will feel stinging when applying a serum or cream. I have no answers for this either, except that skin regularly treated with ELS serum or Dream cream is not that prone to stinging. So there is something there about lipids, but I don't know how it ties up with everything else.

Incidentally, zinc is very important for some many cellular activities, I wish that people obsessed with copper in skin care did pay more attention to zinc!
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