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kimouette

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Hi everyone,

I am new here and I just bought my first skinactives products. I still haven't receive them, but I just realized I should have read this forum before placing my order! No big deal, I'll just buy some other products next time I guess.

I am lucky enough to have both rosacea and acne. Not the worst case in the universe, but my skin is not improving nor stable... it just gets a little worse every day.

I have to say that I have found the perfect foundation cream (Missha BB cream #23 that costs almost nothing on Ebay!) that REALLY covers the redness on my cheeks and nose without giving me this greyish color. It really changed my life in terms of not having to hive my face every time someone talks to me!

But under that layer of foundation, I want my skin to improve. It is sooo sensible, it reacts to almost any type of products, even the ones claiming to be formulated for sensible skin. But on the other side, I have that acne problem (a little on my chin and a lot on my cheeks) that I really want to get rid of. When a pimple is about to appear, that area really hurts... to the point where I just have to pop it otherwise I'll feel it the whole day. And then of course it leaves a scab, and then a scar (some scars wont ever disappear since my skin seems to have problem healing).

Knowing that I have mixed skin type (a little oily on forehead, nose and chin, but EXTREMELY dry on my cheeks, so not a T zone but a I zone) what would you recommend in terms of make up remover, cleanser, moisturizing cream (that will need to remain under my BB cream most of the day)?

Just in case it makes any difference, I am a woman, 33 years old that eats well, exercises 3 times a week and nothing in my routine changed since the last 3 years when my acne started to become worse. I saw an endocrinologist that told me my iron was a little low (nothing dramatic), but else than that my blood results are perfectly normal.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks for reading
Kim
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When acne comes from "nowhere" you have to suspect the skin care products you use. I am so sorry, but even you favorite BB cream should be considered a suspect.

Can you give us the ingredient list?

kimouette

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I know that my BB cream contains plenty of ingredients I dont necessarily want on my skin, but it cant be the cause of my acne getting worse since it started about 2 years ago, while I've been using my bb cream since only 6 months.

Here are the ingredients :

M Perfect Cover BB Cream SPF 42 PA+++

Water(Aqua), Cyclomethicone, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Zinc Oxide, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Mineral Oil, Phenyl Trimethicone, Talc, Arbutin, Hydrolyzed Collagen, Dimethicone, Macadamia Ternifolia Seed Oil, Squalane, Adenosine, Cetyl PEG/PPG-10/1 Dimethicone, PEG-10 Dimethicone, Polyethylene, Beeswax(Cera Alba), Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Caviar Extract, Algae Extract, Rosa Canina Fruit Oil, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Fagus Sylvatica Bud Extract, Ceramide 3, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract, Sodium Hyaluronate, Sodium Chloride, Fragrance(Parfum), Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Disodium EDTA, Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Benzyl Salicylate, Hydroxycitronellal, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Hexyl Cinnamal, Linalool, Citronellol
MAY CONTAIN[+/-; Titanium Dioxide(CI 77891), Iron Oxides(CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499)]

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But you can't complain about your skin: it is the one you have and rather than complaining about it, we must learn to accommodate its "moods". You cannot make a skin less sensitive, but you can avoid the ingredients that increase irritation, like sodium lauryl sulfate and fragrances. The industry doesn't bother so you have to. Just to give an example, Badescu's products contain Peru balsam.

The product you are using is on the "occlusive" side and it contains too many fragrance ingredients.

Water, Cyclomethicone, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Zinc Oxide, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Mineral Oil, Phenyl Trimethicone, Talc, Arbutin, Hydrolyzed Collagen, Dimethicone, Macadamia Ternifolia Seed Oil, Squalane, Adenosine, Cetyl PEG/PPG-10/1 Dimethicone, PEG-10 Dimethicone, Polyethylene, Beeswax(Cera Alba), Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Caviar Extract, Algae Extract, Rosa Canina Fruit Oil, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Fagus Sylvatica Bud Extract, Ceramide 3, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract, Sodium Hyaluronate, Sodium Chloride, Fragrance(Parfum), Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Disodium EDTA, Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Benzyl Salicylate, Hydroxycitronellal, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Hexyl Cinnamal, Linalool, Citronellol
MAY CONTAIN[+/-; Titanium Dioxide(CI 77891), Iron Oxides(CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499)]
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Hello Kimouette,

I don't know what products you bought from Skin Actives but I am sure you will find something here that will work.  I am no expert, I've only been using SA products for a rwo weeks.  But I will tell you that the products are "feeding" my skin - not just "targeting" one or two issues.  My skin is generally "happier" now.  The goal is to help get the skin as healthy as your skin can be, not to expect miracles,    I do not have rosacea so I cannot comment on that.  I do have acne.  I use the salicydic acid wash, the t zone serum, and Twilight (vitamin A) cream.  I also use the Collagen serum that will help address the hyperpigmentation from the acne.  I use ELS for any dry areas.  I haven't had ANY dryness issues with any Skin Actives products.

The biggest thing I can say is that we have to be patient - hard, I know.  Give the products a try (Hannah is great help there) and be patient. 

I am learning that those of us with skin with special needs (and really everyone)  have to be very cautious of the products we use, learn about ingredients (Hannah can help),  be wary of marketing ploys, and become our own "skin advocate." 

You will learn a lot from the forum - read as much as you can, there is a lot of info here. 

Best of luck to you.
kimouette

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Thanks to both of you for your answers and recommendations. For the info...I ordered the canvas base cream + willow bark powder (to mix in the canvas cream to treat my acne) + tea tree oil. I know these products are meant to treat acne not rosacea, I simply hope they won't aggravate my rosacea or irritate my skin in the process. As for my bb cream, thanks for pointing out the problematic ingredients. Please believe me when I say that I really hope I could stop wearing that cream. I am not a "make up person "at all!! It makes me feel like I'm hiding behind a mask and I really don't identify myself to other women wearing make up. It's just the thing I found that helps with my (already very low) self esteem. Since my skin is pale, my rosacea and acne are very visible when I don't wear my bb cream. And I know that people don't look at me in the eyes when my skin is just plain natural with all this acne and redness... I can't stand it! If I ever find a cream (or a combination of different products), that helps improve my skin just enough to make it look un-inflamed, I will stop using my bb cream right away! I would love to be able to just hydrate my face in the morning and leave the house not feeling like I'm wearing a mask! Maybe I just need some time to accept my situation, maybe I simply need different products, maybe time will change my skin... Not sure sure which one will do the trick!
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Have you done a search on "rosacea" here on the forum?  There is probably a lot of info and suggestions by other people.     I don't know, but the t-tree oil might be a little harsh on the rosacea..... I am sure there are other options to treat the acne and the rosacea.    I would try the Acne Control kit and then see what you could add for the rosacea.  You could try one product at a time to see if there are any flare-ups in your rosacea. 

Have you been to your dr or dermatologist?  You may need a visit to him/her to get your situation under control.   I think it would be worth it a visit.

Have you tried some mineral makeup?  And add a good concealer?  Maybe that would give you some good results if you are concerned about the ingredients in your bb cream.  I know Neutrogena has a bb cream  - you might check their ingredients against the one you have.   I understand your need to "cover up" --

Any changes you make will need time to work.  Acne is hard enough to treat, plus you have the rosacea to deal with, too.  Be patient with whatever treatments you use. 

Best of luck to you.



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