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i was thinking maybe squalane, specifically olive oil derived squalane..and also a buffered form of vitamin c products such as an ascorbate(tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate), magnesium ascorbyl phosphate, or ascorbyl palmitate..pure ascorbic acid can be a little irritating for those with sensitive skin or using other exfoliants due to it's acidic nature...the ones i mentioned are more stable as well so they could potentially last longer when mixed in whole into other formulas or the canvas cream...

            also how about a canvas lotion  with an airtight pump to keep all the antioxidants from being exposed to the air? 

    just some ideas from a new member...i love this site already!

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From the literature available, I have no doubt that the most effective form of ascorbic acid is ascorbic acid. When ascorbic acid is esterified, it loses most (and sometimes all) of it power. The solution is using a little of ascorbic acid rather than a lot. Using concentrated ascorbic acid will give a light peel. But just a pinch of ascorbic acid will be enough to work as a vitamin, and because the pH (acidity) depends on the concentration, there is no reason why this addition should change much the pH of the cream or lotion. The only problem is ascorbic acid stability, but this can be solved by adding the vitamin C to a bit of cream, lotion or gel rather than preparing a large amount.
Magnesium ascorbyl phosphate retains some of the value of ascorbic acid and we will make it available soon.

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that is great info thanks...i love to learn info like this...another thing is the m.a.p is also supposed to be slightly beneficial for skin lightening but only in at least a 10%  concentration..i will hang in there and wait for that product but until then you have several great antioxidants in the meantime...

    and i have ONE more suggestion...lol...am i wearing out my welcome yet?  maybe a 'serum' type base: something silky feeling with  a silicone(dimethicone, cyclomethicone, etc) type base?

   anyway, thanks for the response AND the info!

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I am not familiar with forums but I don't think you can wear your welcome that easily!
Maybe the reason why magnesium ascorbyl phosphate requires such a high concentration for lightening is because it may be a small percentage could be converted into vitamin C, but I am just guessing.
We would like to add other bases but it will take time (and growth). Also, few of our actives would dissolve in such a base, so its usefulness would be limited.


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