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Hannah, forgot to ask which analog of D3 did you end up getting?  I can't wait to try this.

Thanks for taking the time to get this, I do appreciate it.

 

-Bob

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Cholecalciferol.

Let us know how it goes and don't forget the lipids!
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Hi Hannah, a couple of questions.  What Lipids will I need to add to this so I can add this to my order when it is available?

 

Also as I looked at the study I was wondering if this was 1,25(OH)2D3

 

If so I was concerned because the study shows that that compund had little effect on hairgrowth.  I'm far from the expert so maybe I am probably just missing something.  Here is a couple of excerpts from the study.

 

http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/143/11/4389#T4

 

The maximum hair growth score was consistently higher in mice treated with the vitamin D3 analogs than in control mice (Table 4Go). The compounds KH 1060, Ro 27-5646, and EB1089 were the most consistently effective at inducing hair growth. The 1,25(OH)2D3 had little effect on hair growth (Table 4Go, Fig. 4Go). The time to achieve maximal hair growth varied among the vitamin D3 treatment groups. For example, the latency period was, on average, 9 d for mice receiving either Ro 27-0574 or EB1089 (female) groups, whereas it was 18 d for males receiving EB1089, and 21 d for mice receiving KH 1060 (Fig. 4Go). 

 

In our experiments, the administration of 1,25(OH)2D3 did not induce hair growth in the nude mice; however, a variety of vitamin D3 analogs did cause hair growth. All of these analogs have been previously shown to have a greater potency to induce differentiation and inhibit proliferation of a variety of cancer-related cell types, both in vitro and in vivo (10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15) (Table 3Go). Therefore, the likely reason why the vitamin D3 analogs are able to stimulate hair growth in nude mice, whereas 1,25(OH)2D3 cannot, is that they have greater potency in vivo.

 

Thanks again, I'll grab this when it becomes available.

 

-Bob

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This is simply D3, cholecalciferol.

Obviously, I can't go after every chemical that has some effect on hair growth. Some analogs may be very expensive (synthesized only for the purpose of a scientific study) or there may not be enough information on their effects on humans. D3 cholecalciferol is well known and I feel fine with selling it.


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Makes sense.  What lipids will I need to purchase with this?  Would you suggest applying this on different days then the KGF or do you think it would be fine to apply after the KGF Serum dries?

 

Thanks again,

 

-Bob

 

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I would suggest ELS but it will be too costly. You can try rosehip oil, which for this purpose may be even better. After the serum will be fine. Sorry about the mess you will make with the pillow!
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This is a thread which discusses the effects green tea extract (with reference to a couple studies) on it's possible effects on regrowing hair.

 

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?t=29143&start=0

 

Also, you may want to discuss l-arginine on the page where you mention the ingredients in the KGF serum.  I've read it produces nitric oxide and has a minoxidil like effect in opening potassium channels.  A good selling point for your serum.

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Once our hair starts filling in do we still have to keep it up daily?  In other words if we want to keep it going this will be every day forever?  Unless of course one decides to go for a hair transplant or they discover a miracle cure for thinning hair. Mine is thinning on the front side area. Any women have success with this area?
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Unless the reason for the hair loss has disappeared. This will not happen for men having male pattern hair loss, but it may be true for women who lost hair after being especially unkind to it.

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Mine has thinned simply from losing estrogen, since menopause .

But, the oddest thing has happened and I have no explanation. Here are the serums I use on my face (I need to re-order anti-age cream as I'm out, but I normally use it also):

MNS
DMAE Serum
CHAS
Let's Make Collagen

I now have NEW hair growth where my hair line was receding just above the temple area. I'm going to take pics so you can see the hairs and post them. I have not changed shampoos, nor done anything else, but put these items all over my forehead area and into that area where my hair used to be thicker, but had basically fallen out. I have no idea what caused this new growth (hair stylist noticed it also and called it definite new growth). Maybe it would have happened with or without the use of the items in that area, but it's been bare of hair there for a long, long time prior. The hairs are not fine, in particular either, but rather nice and some are at least two+ inches long.

Hannah, any ideas if anything in the items above would have spurred new hair growth or can I chalk it up to a miracle of sorts?   Oh, and I have no new growth elsewhere on my head but would sure love to....maybe I need to start massaging these into other areas????


Just posted the pic of new hair growth....not using KGF, just the serums mentioned. A few of the longer hairs coming forward from futher back on my head are not the new growth, but you can see the shorter hairs there and those are the new growth. There was virtually no hair there before and only started putting the serums in that area in the last six weeks or so...



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