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the_professor

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I am formulating a rosacea serum, is that the one you mean?

Do you think that Dermalogica cream with liquorice could be better than our Canvas base cream withj liquorice?

Most skin care companies use a propylene glycol/water extract of the common liquorice plant powder, because liquorice is an extract that is very difficult to formulate. Even with the glycolic extract, liquorice still give problems (change of color and smell).

We at SAS solved the problem using a liquorice extract obtained with extracting the plant material with a different extraction method, so that the powder extract is white. Using this extract you get the full benefits of liquorice without formulation problems.

its an interesting approach making new products this way, providing active ingredients at a low cost and then let us with diseased skin try out different formulas.

 

ive tried as good as everything with my rosacea and seb derm combo. i do like Dermalogica Barrier Repair, i doubt i will find anything as good (Elidel is also really good, i'm just concerned with the risk of skin cancer and lymphoma) ..

 

licorice and synthetic beeswaxes are ingredients i would like to try at some point in time, i could imagine that these ingredients would be great for my nose. licorice for some possible anti-VEGF action and synthetic beeswaxes for protecting the epidermis, preventing yeast to dissolve it

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i have rosacea-but with an oilier skin type, even for 54yrs. old ; and jojoba oil is my life line....along with rosacea ltd3, and egf and licorice.

the seakelp and jojoba are perfect for my rosacea skin and hair.

i also use nasal crom nose spray on my rosacea blisters or allergy reaction on my skin.

emily

sorry emily, it think i deleted a post by mistake..the "delete" button is too close to the "edit" button.

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I think the Dermalogica Barrier Repair looks interesting. Thank you, Professor, for pointing it out! I searched and it looks like some have really liked it. Might make another nice base option for actives. Here are the ingredients.

Ingredients: Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Domethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate, Citrus Medica Limonium (Lemon) Extract, Fumaria Officinalis Extract, Fumaric Acid, Butyrospermum Parkii(Shea Butter) Oil, Oenothera Biennis (Evening Primrose) Oil, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Bisabolol, Butylen Glycol, Propylparaben.

Suitable for these skin types:
Oily, Sensitive, Flush, Normal, Combination, Dry

-Artist
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artist, i wrote rose hip oil but it is just evening primrose oil.

I read on a site that Barrier Repair was among the 5 best selling dermalogica products so guess i'm not the only one liking it.

 

I wonder if zinc pyrithione would be legal to purchase through SAS? or would i need to go to a pharmacy? I do like this for seb derm, it doesnt irritate at low concentrations and it doesnt create a microbial mess on the skin (unlike other anti-fungal substances that promote resistance and minor superinfections)

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I think the Dermalogica Barrier Repair looks interesting. Thank you, Professor, for pointing it out! I searched and it looks like some have really liked it. Might make another nice base option for actives. Here are the ingredients.

Ingredients: Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Domethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate, Citrus Medica Limonium (Lemon) Extract, Fumaria Officinalis Extract, Fumaric Acid, Butyrospermum Parkii(Shea Butter) Oil, Oenothera Biennis (Evening Primrose) Oil, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Bisabolol, Butylen Glycol, Propylparaben.

Suitable for these skin types:
Oily, Sensitive, Flush, Normal, Combination, Dry

-Artist

 

I think the Barrier Repair is fairly similar to Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Moisture Gel, which I have been using on my rosacea skin for nearly 8 months with no irritation.  I'm currently mixing it with sea kelp for my morning moisturizer.

 

Here's the ingredients, with her explanations:

 

Purified Water, Cyclopentasiloxane, Cyclomethicone (silicones/slip agents), Butylene Glycol, Glycerin, (slip and water-binding agents) Laminaria Saccharina (Seaweed) Extract (water-binding agent), Camellia Oleifera (Green Tea) Leaf Extract, Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Extract (antioxidants), Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Oil (emollient plant oil/lubricant), Tocopherol Acetate (Vitamin E/antioxidant), Niacinamide (Vitamin B3/water-binding agent), Phenyl Trimethicone, Dimethicone, Bis-Phenylpropyl Dimethicone (all silicones/slip agents), Dipotassium Glycyrrhizate (licorice/anti-irritant), Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate (Vitamin C/antioxidant), Sodium Hyaluronate, Phospholipids (water-binding agents), Superoxide Dismutase (antioxidant), Isohexadecane (emulsifier), Panthenol (Vitamin B5/water-binding agent), Propylene Glycol (slip agent), Sodium Carbomer (gel-based thickener), Sodium Acrylate/Acryloyldimethyl Taurate Copolymer (film-forming/water-binding agent), Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer (silicone film-forming agent), Polysorbate 80 (thickener), Hydroxyethylcellulose(gel-based thickener), Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben (all preservatives).

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I am new here.  I recently self diagnosed myself with rosacea.  Will look for a derm. and get confirmation too.  I am pretty sure though since my dad has it.  Sigh, did not get mom's perfect skin gene. 

 

Artist is such an inspiration for me. 

 

Would you please let me know where do you buy emu oil and what brand do you use? And how come I  can't find licorice you've mentioned here?  Is it the same as liquorice?

 

Thanks.

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Yes, liquorice and licorice are the same thing (plant). Our extract is white to make it easier to use.



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orangetabby: Well that makes me feel great, thanks! I use Emu Oil from http://www.laidinmt.com - the pure emu oil. Even though is it wonderful on my skin, you may want to start with a test area for several days. The licorice has been amazing - better than topical antibiotics for me. Results are always fast, too.

Tons of help here - don't hesitate to ask

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Thanks artist and hanna.

 

I just placed an order for sea kelp, EGF and licorice.  Artist has talked about what if she discovered SAS before IPL.  Maybe we will see what happens to me.  I am not keen to use harsh chemicals on my already sensitive skin.  Totally against taking oral antiboitics.  Been there, done that for cystic acne ( could it actaully be rosacea actually?).  Not fun.

 

I am doing some basic research on this.  And there two other routes that was barely talked about here. 

#1 there is a site that sell demotex mites soultions and claim it should help.  Anybody has ever tried it or at least get tested with that mite?

 

#2 there is a ton of people doing liver flushing to try to cure everything from gallbladder problem to skin problems.  I persoanlly was diagnosed by a chinese medicine practioner with a stagnant liver.  I have done 12 or so liver flushes but not very sucessfully ones.  Why am I still trying?  To be honest, I don't really know.  I feel it's the right way to go, it just hasn't happened for me yet.  Anybody tried it successfully here?

 

I love this place and the yahoo rosacea yahoo forum.  There is not much whining going on.  We all have a lot to whine.  But the positive attitude is just amazing. 

 

Peace.

 

 

 

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Orangetabby,

With the respect due to all tabbies (and calicos, and cats in general) we do not allow discussion of alternative medicine in our forum. Postinds related to alternative medicine and food supplements will be deleted.



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