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orangetabby

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I received my shippment from skin actives about two weeks ago. 

 

First thing I tried was the EGF.  I mixed it with my Avene skin recovery cream.  This was kept at room temp. since the cream has enough preservatives to keep it active.  Have been using it for about two weeks now.  I don't see any improvement really.  During this period of time, I had a rash possibly caused by sea kelp. 

 

Then I tried sea kelp mixed with emu oil half and half on my face as overnight treatment.  This gives me a rash after 3 applications.  I now hesitate to use sea kelp on my skin.  As I've mentioned in the other thread, sea kelp do well on my leg and hand skin.

 

I started trying licorice four days ago.  I mixed some into Avenue hydrance cream (can't find skin recovery cream locally any more), following Artist's portions.  I used it on a test spot on my left cheek.  I am yet to see any improvement. 

 

What's really strange is that every time I put it on my test spot, the skin felt warm.  ??

 

Yesterday, I got bored again and put a mix of water and jojoba oil on my left cheek where is rough and dry.  This morning, that area was itchy but the skin looks no different than my right cheek?

 

Skin on my cheek and part of my chin is red, dry and rough.  Bumpy too.  Skin on my nose and the other part of my chin is red, oily, not rough but has break out from time to time.  My skin overall is dehydrated.

 

Sorry about the long post.

 

I would like to know if I can try the rosacea control serum from SAS. 

 

Also, what might work for me?  I am looking into EGCG from green tea, rose heep oil. 

 

Thanks.  It's a bit frustrated that the first 3 actives did not do much to me.

 

 

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Maybe you could try our actives by themselves, like sea kelp, or mixed with Canvas base cream to give them a better chance.

It is hard to give advise when you are mixing actives with emu oil or with creams sold by other companies as I have no experience with those products.





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orangetabby,

i had to wean myself onto the seakelp....i did 2 min masks, diluted with water 2x a week. at first.

then i mixed with oil, which yu seem to be having a probelm with also. and left it on half an hour.

But it took over a month to be able to use seakelp overnite in a strong solution.

but i didn't get a rash......i got a warm,tight feeling at first.

I thot maybe it was so out of condition that i needed to build up it's ability.

but, that's just me. emily


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Hi orangetabby,

 

I have to 2nd Hannah's advice, put your regular creams aside for a week or two and use just SAS.  My skin is super sensitive to alot of chemicals but SAS has made a HUGE improvement in my rosacea and overall skin in just 2 weeks.  Here's my mixes if it helps:

 

HA + Licorice equal protions, shaken in distilled water (about 3 to 1).  Leave overnight and it makes a gel.  If too thick add more distilled water.

 

Small amount sea kelp shaken in distilled water, then add 1/4 vial reconstituted EGF vial.  Keep in the fridge!

 

I apply the EGF first, it absorbs quickly, then the HA/Licorice gel.   Then sunscreen and mineral makeup. 

 

Sometimes if my face feels tight or dry over the top of the 2 mixes, I pat a mix of meadowfoam or emu oil w/hydrosol water, but you might be able to use the Canvas cream.

 

Hope this helps!  Please don't give up, these product are the best ever, it's just a bit of a learning curve to figure how to use them in conjunction w/your particular skin and issues. 

 

PS.  I wash w/the Sea Kelp and surfactant it comes w/and this makes my skin feel great.  There is a "sensation" I think from the sea kelp, to me it feels like a 'tightening", which at first scared me because I thought dryness and irritation was coming behind but that never happened.  Maybe that's the "warmth" you're feeling? 

 

 


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Originally Posted by orangetabby

 

I started trying licorice four days ago.  I mixed some into Avenue hydrance cream (can't find skin recovery cream locally any more), following Artist's portions.  I used it on a test spot on my left cheek.  I am yet to see any improvement. 

 

Skin on my cheek and part of my chin is red, dry and rough.  Bumpy too.  Skin on my nose and the other part of my chin is red, oily, not rough but has break out from time to time.  My skin overall is dehydrated.

 

Sorry about the long post.

 

 

 

Me again, just re-read your post, the first time I mixed the licorice it was w/emu oil and water and it wasn't readily effective but the 2nd time mixed only w/HA & water immediately effective, so that may be a clue, your problem may be the Avene as a base.

 

Also, the HA & EGF should really help your dehydration.


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Orangetabby (Cute name - I have one of those ):

 

You really are better off if you start with a SAS base instead of a commercial cream.  First, you want to get all the bad preservatives and fillers out of your routine because there is always a possiblility that they are responsible for some of your skin problems.  Also, because there is so much "stuff" in commercial creams and lotions there is no telling if something is reacting or deactivating an active that you add. 

 

I have found that the best way to use EGF is in a water base.  You can use the Marine Nutrient Serum (my personal favorite), or make a base of your own with hyaluronic acid and distilled water (or buy that base elsewhere).  Use this mix first and then add whatever other products you use on top. 

 

Personally, I think you should try the sea kelp as a facial cleaner.  Here you can actually mix it with a cleaner you already have.  You will be using it in a more diluted concentration and also rinsing it off so you shouldn't experience any irritation.  I don't really understand the sea kelp/emu oil mix.  I doesn't seem like they would go together very well.

 

Finally, if you have a bunch of products you plan to continue to use, I would just pick one SAS product and add it to your routine.  Otherwise there are just too many variables to work with.  The rosecea control serum sounds like a good idea, or the sea kelp cleanser.  

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Thanks for the replies.  I can feel the warmth.

I am taking notes.   I will take the advise and definitely order some canvas, roseacea serum and HA to use as base.  Thanks again. 

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Orangetabby (Cute name - I have one of those ):

 

First, you want to get all the bad preservatives and fillers out of your routine because there is always a possiblility that they are responsible for some of your skin problems.  Also, because there is so much "stuff" in commercial creams and lotions there is no telling if something is reacting or deactivating an active that you add. 

 

I have found that the best way to use EGF is in a water base.  You can make a base of your own with hyaluronic acid and distilled water 

 

 

Personally, I think you should try the sea kelp as a facial cleaner.  .  

 

Panda,

 

How did you determine which preservatives and other "stuff" ingredients are bad?  Do you have a reference source you found reliable?  There's a good bit of conflicting info btw the all natural people and the chemists - hard to know...

 

Also, do you think mixing my EGF serum (recond. egf added to distl water/sea kelp blend) into my Licorice serum (HA/Licorice/distilled water) would be less effective than layering it (it would remove 1 more step)?

 

Finally, just had to second your recommendation on the sea kelp cleanser, my rosacea skin loves it!  I mix it w/half the surfactant and it's a very mild cleanser plus leaves my skin looking great!

 

Thanks Pand for your imput and thanks SAS for the Sea Kelp and actives!!!


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How did you determine which preservatives and other "stuff" ingredients are bad?  Do you have a reference source you found reliable?  There's a good bit of conflicting info btw the all natural people and the chemists - hard to know...

 

Also, do you think mixing my EGF serum (recond. egf added to distl water/sea kelp blend) into my Licorice serum (HA/Licorice/distilled water) would be less effective than layering it (it would remove 1 more step)?

 

Finally, just had to second your recommendation on the sea kelp cleanser, my rosacea skin loves it!  I mix it w/half the surfactant and it's a very mild cleanser plus leaves my skin looking great!

 

Thanks Pand for your imput and thanks SAS for the Sea Kelp and actives!!!

Karla, there are a lot of things in commercial creams that don't really do anything.  They just make the cream fluffy or light or able to withstand extreme temperatures and sit on shelves for years   I am also not someone that believes that anything natural is good.  I just want to include things that serve a purpose.  Look at the ingredients in MNS.  There is nothing in the serum that doesn't serve a purpose - it's either an active, a preservative, or water.  So I guess that is the point I am trying to get across.

 

Both your EGF serum and your liquorice serum have a water base.  I see no reason why they couldn't be combined.  But you might want to wait until you make the next batch so you don't duplicate the water and reduce the concentration of the actives.

 

As to the sea kelp cleanser, again, you got rid of all the unnecessary stuff.  It is about as pure as it can be.  The less unnecessary stuff there is in a mix, the less chance there is for a bad reaction.

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Hello,

I am new here and it is such a refreshing pleasure to contribute to a forum that is actively concerned about all our respective needs. Skin Actives is the most brilliant innovation I have discovered and I decided to join this forum as a close fellow rosacean friend told me what a wonderful lot of people there are here.

Anyway, I had the most severe rosacea imaginable and long story short, I am now thankfully nearly in remission. Licorice played a crucial role in my recovery along with Green Tea. This combination literally makes my skin glow and has reduced it's sensitivity enormously. My skin has looked the best ever. I couldn't live without them now. I am eager to try and experiment more with other ingredients and look forward to reading all the messages and advice given. You are all amazing!

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