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Kitty

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Hi,

I'm new here to the forum and I'm so grateful to have found this site.

It gives me hope that maybe one day soon, I'll be able to get this awful rosacea under some control so I can move forward with my life.  I've spent quite a bit of time reading old posts, and it's incredibly educational.

 

I've probably had rosacea most of my life looking back...all that blushing and flushing when I was a teenager.  Then in my twenties, I developed seb derm and was given desonide...a topical steroid...which I used for nearly 20 years.

I did question my dermatologist many times about that, and was reassured it was perfectly ok.  Well, now I know it was not ok!  Changed derms and was immediately taken off the desonide and that's when things really got very bad.  Lots of P&P, redness, flushing and some small veins.  Tried the usual treatments...antibiotics, topicals like metro, ovace etc. with little success.

Zinc worked well but ate up my stomach.  Elidel works ok if I only use it every few days or so.  The past few months I've used green tea cream and within two days all the p&p were gone, skin much less red and much softer.

That was the first two months on it...the last few weeks I've noticed increased flushing and redness when out in the heat so I've stopped the green tea cream also. Depressing as I thought I had finally found something that worked for me. 

 

Now I'm back to dealing with p&p, flushing, seb derm, itching etc.  I'm going to try some of the suggestions mentioned like licorice, Sea Kelp or maybe the MNS, EGF, but wanted to ask if there might be something I should add for the seb derm? 

 

Thanks so very much.

 

Cathy


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You can use sea kelp bioferment plus EGCG from green tea.
EGF in marine nutrient serum should help with your rosacea.

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Thanks so much Hannah...I'll take your suggestions.


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Prof,

If sea kelp bioferment with EGCG and green tea work, I think it is better not to go with the cannons (i.e. Head and Shoulders). Same for EGF.

I think the nice thing about Skin Actives is that people don't have to use strong antibiotics or other cannons to treat skin problems, unless our much kinder actives fail (and they don't fail too often, from what I've seen).

Zinc pyrithione is a fungicide that can be irritating to the skin. Go for it if you have no choice but otherwise, stick ith SAS.


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Why do should we need fungicides? Fungicides also affect our cells because we are eukaryotes, just like fungi. Unless we have a fungal infection, we should avoid fungicides altogether.




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I'm no expert, but I think some research that Hannah did a while back said that there was the option to use tea tree oil for the yeast.
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Here's the thread with the research (a few messages down)

 

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/skinactives/vpost?id=952789&highlight=dandruff

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Again,

We use tea tree oil, we have much experience in these matters.  People use tea tree as a spot treatment or mixed with other carriers.

Yeast and other fungi are usually secondary to other problems. With sea kelp and other actives we prevent the oiliness so the acne bacteria has no opportunity to grow. The same for hair problems. Prevent growth of bacteria and fungi rather than kill them.

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rosaceans should not spot treat. tea tree oil is very harsh, its great against acne, but i would not recommend it against rosacea..then better use azelaic acid if you really want something stronger.

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I don't understand your worries. Our clients with rosacea don't haveto use tea tree oil because they have sea kelp bioferment, EGF, etc.

Have you tried our actives at all? You should have no need of fungicides once you start using our actives.



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